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		<title>By: Dan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fair to suggest that the emphasis of my question is&lt;br&gt;misplaced -- it&#039;s not &quot;BUY an ebook&quot; but rather &quot;buy and EBOOK&quot;,&lt;br&gt;perhaps.  However, comparing the bundle of rights warranted by a movie&lt;br&gt;ticket to an ebook is not a true representation of how eBooks are&lt;br&gt;marketed.  They&#039;re marketed more like a DVD than a movie ticket, yet I&lt;br&gt;agree, you&#039;re actually purchasing something much different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s fair to suggest that the emphasis of my question is<br />misplaced &#8212; it&#39;s not &#8220;BUY an ebook&#8221; but rather &#8220;buy and EBOOK&#8221;,<br />perhaps.  However, comparing the bundle of rights warranted by a movie<br />ticket to an ebook is not a true representation of how eBooks are<br />marketed.  They&#39;re marketed more like a DVD than a movie ticket, yet I<br />agree, you&#39;re actually purchasing something much different.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s fair to suggest that the emphasis of my question is&lt;br&gt;misplaced -- it&#039;s not &quot;BUY an ebook&quot; but rather &quot;buy and EBOOK&quot;,&lt;br&gt;perhaps.  However, comparing the bundle of rights warranted by a movie&lt;br&gt;ticket to an ebook is not a true representation of how eBooks are&lt;br&gt;marketed.  They&#039;re marketed more like a DVD than a movie ticket, yet I&lt;br&gt;agree, you&#039;re actually purchasing something much different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#39;s fair to suggest that the emphasis of my question is<br />misplaced &#8212; it&#39;s not &#8220;BUY an ebook&#8221; but rather &#8220;buy and EBOOK&#8221;,<br />perhaps.  However, comparing the bundle of rights warranted by a movie<br />ticket to an ebook is not a true representation of how eBooks are<br />marketed.  They&#39;re marketed more like a DVD than a movie ticket, yet I<br />agree, you&#39;re actually purchasing something much different.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Havens</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Havens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m of two minds on this. On the one hand, I&#039;ve been loving/reading books for my entire life, and part of the fun of books is lending them, displaying them, re-selling them, buying them used, etc. Stuff that has to do with the physical-ness of the books. Losing those activities when you buy an eBook is, yes, a pain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand, I&#039;ve been reading eBooks on Palms/Smart Phones for 13 years now, and currently do more than half of my reading on such. With eBooks on my phone, I can do things that are impossible with printed books. I can carry many of them around. I can read in short bursts effectively, since they&#039;re portable and on my always-with-me device. I never lose a book -- the two companies I buy from maintain my library in the cloud, and the free books I get from Gutenberg et al are always there. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In thinking about this, I&#039;m beginning to regard &quot;book&quot; as two different things, the same as I have regarded &quot;movie&quot; since VHS came out. When I go to see a movie in the theater, I am renting the right to see it once, on a big dang screen, surrounded by people, in a dark place that smells like popcorn and corn syrup. I don&#039;t object to the fact that, when it&#039;s over, I have nothing to sell, trade, keep, display, etc. It&#039;s the movie experience. I can talk about having seen it, quote it, blog it, review it, pan it, etc. But the &quot;it&quot; doesn&#039;t belong to me in any way other than experientially. Two months from now, though, I can buy the DVD. That &quot;thing&quot; is mine. I can watch it 100 times, loan it to my brother, sell it at a used video store, loan it, display the case on my shelf, etc. They are two fundamentally different types of transactions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I buy some books now in print because I make the pre-purchase decision that the physical-ness of the book is important to me. Large, colorful photo books. Tutorial/teaching books that I need to mark-up. Funny books that I know I&#039;ll only read once and want to loan away forever. Books by certain authors that are important enough to me to warrant space on my shelf as &quot;personal historical art.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want the rights associated with a DVD, buy the DVD. If you want to sit in a theater and watch on a big screen with your arm around your gal, do that. If you want to trade a book, give it away, use it as a coaster... buy the print version. If you want to read it on your phone while standing in line at the BMV, buy the eBook.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s not complicated to me anymore. It&#039;s just two different things. Choice is good. Yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m of two minds on this. On the one hand, I&#39;ve been loving/reading books for my entire life, and part of the fun of books is lending them, displaying them, re-selling them, buying them used, etc. Stuff that has to do with the physical-ness of the books. Losing those activities when you buy an eBook is, yes, a pain.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#39;ve been reading eBooks on Palms/Smart Phones for 13 years now, and currently do more than half of my reading on such. With eBooks on my phone, I can do things that are impossible with printed books. I can carry many of them around. I can read in short bursts effectively, since they&#39;re portable and on my always-with-me device. I never lose a book &#8212; the two companies I buy from maintain my library in the cloud, and the free books I get from Gutenberg et al are always there. </p>
<p>In thinking about this, I&#39;m beginning to regard &#8220;book&#8221; as two different things, the same as I have regarded &#8220;movie&#8221; since VHS came out. When I go to see a movie in the theater, I am renting the right to see it once, on a big dang screen, surrounded by people, in a dark place that smells like popcorn and corn syrup. I don&#39;t object to the fact that, when it&#39;s over, I have nothing to sell, trade, keep, display, etc. It&#39;s the movie experience. I can talk about having seen it, quote it, blog it, review it, pan it, etc. But the &#8220;it&#8221; doesn&#39;t belong to me in any way other than experientially. Two months from now, though, I can buy the DVD. That &#8220;thing&#8221; is mine. I can watch it 100 times, loan it to my brother, sell it at a used video store, loan it, display the case on my shelf, etc. They are two fundamentally different types of transactions.</p>
<p>I buy some books now in print because I make the pre-purchase decision that the physical-ness of the book is important to me. Large, colorful photo books. Tutorial/teaching books that I need to mark-up. Funny books that I know I&#39;ll only read once and want to loan away forever. Books by certain authors that are important enough to me to warrant space on my shelf as &#8220;personal historical art.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want the rights associated with a DVD, buy the DVD. If you want to sit in a theater and watch on a big screen with your arm around your gal, do that. If you want to trade a book, give it away, use it as a coaster&#8230; buy the print version. If you want to read it on your phone while standing in line at the BMV, buy the eBook.</p>
<p>It&#39;s not complicated to me anymore. It&#39;s just two different things. Choice is good. Yes?</p>
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		<title>By: tonybuy</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>tonybuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except that I am also giving them the rest of my library, and that&#039;s&lt;br&gt;unreasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that I am also giving them the rest of my library, and that&#39;s<br />unreasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you let somebody borrow the actual Kindle where the e-book is stored, then in a sense you are extending the traditional ownership rights.</description>
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<p>if you let somebody borrow the actual Kindle where the e-book is stored, then in a sense you are extending the traditional ownership rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://dlewis.net/2009/12/01/what-does-it-mean-to-buy-an-e-book/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the tangible item plus license dichotomy.  It&#039;s just not necessary.  Ownership of a tangible (or even intangible) item doesn&#039;t entitle the owner to use the the item in unlawful ways.  You can&#039;t bash in mailboxes or skulls with a lawfully-owned baseball bat, for example.  But calling that a licensing issue makes something simple rather complicated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for your subpoints:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Operationally, it&#039;s difficult to prevent downstream resales of used items, but, if it were unlawful, it&#039;d not be nearly as difficult as you think.  Libraries and used book vendors would immediately cease to exist, leaving only peer-to-peer lending/sales.   You couldn&#039;t eradicate it but you could hamper it dramatically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) I agree.  DRM is a bad attempt to solve the problem I&#039;m articulating.  What we need, legislatively and technologically, is a framework which meets our already-existing vision of how ownership works.  DRM does not do that, at all, for the reasons you articulated and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t like the tangible item plus license dichotomy.  It&#39;s just not necessary.  Ownership of a tangible (or even intangible) item doesn&#39;t entitle the owner to use the the item in unlawful ways.  You can&#39;t bash in mailboxes or skulls with a lawfully-owned baseball bat, for example.  But calling that a licensing issue makes something simple rather complicated.</p>
<p>As for your subpoints:</p>
<p>1) Operationally, it&#39;s difficult to prevent downstream resales of used items, but, if it were unlawful, it&#39;d not be nearly as difficult as you think.  Libraries and used book vendors would immediately cease to exist, leaving only peer-to-peer lending/sales.   You couldn&#39;t eradicate it but you could hamper it dramatically.</p>
<p>2) I agree.  DRM is a bad attempt to solve the problem I&#39;m articulating.  What we need, legislatively and technologically, is a framework which meets our already-existing vision of how ownership works.  DRM does not do that, at all, for the reasons you articulated and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Pitos Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#8211; Dan Lewis, on what it means to &#8216;own&#8217; something - Welcome! If you&#8217;re interested in the same kind of things I am, consider adding this site to your favorites, or better yet, you may want to subscribe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pitos Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#8211; Dan Lewis, on what it means to &#8216;own&#8217; something - Welcome! If you&#8217;re interested in the same kind of things I am, consider adding this site to your favorites, or better yet, you may want to subscribe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post talks about the difference between owning, possessing and accessing a book or anything tangible: &#8220;If I buy (”own”) a book, I expect to be able to do things such as re-sell, loan, rent, gift it. If I rent or borrow (”posses”) a book, I don’t, but expect to be able to do things like take it with me on a trip. If I am in your house and flip through (”access”) a book, you being a mensch aside, I probably can’t just walk out the door with it.&#8221; (from What does it mean to &#8216;buy&#8217; an e-book&#8217;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post talks about the difference between owning, possessing and accessing a book or anything tangible: &#8220;If I buy (”own”) a book, I expect to be able to do things such as re-sell, loan, rent, gift it. If I rent or borrow (”posses”) a book, I don’t, but expect to be able to do things like take it with me on a trip. If I am in your house and flip through (”access”) a book, you being a mensch aside, I probably can’t just walk out the door with it.&#8221; (from What does it mean to &#8216;buy&#8217; an e-book&#8217;) [...]</p>
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